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Post by Steve Sole » Sat 12 May, 2007 9:52 pm

Just watched this on Sky for the first time here.
Man, if you want moviemaking at it's very, very best, then watch this film.
I think it's probably the most awfull cinematic experience I've ever watched. All the cast should have been nominated for awards for it, and it's my understanding that they were all first'timers. For those who haven't seen it yet, you probably all know what it's about, but it does give a very fair account of what happened, no matter how you may feel about the religious/political aspect of 9/11.
I don't think I'd like to see it again.

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Post by hayhook » Sun 13 May, 2007 8:29 am

I did summer theater in Idaho in college with Cheyenne Jackson (tall dark haired sporty guy in the baseball hat) from the movie. He had just finished a run on broadway starring in the musical All Shook Up, and then did this movie. Great work. And nice to see his face again (even though he dies in it ) hope I didn't ruin the ending for anyone... :) The whole movie just made my stomach hurt.

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Post by chuckcogan » Sun 13 May, 2007 9:16 am

yeah....thought this was a great film aswell
highly recommended :D
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Post by blastik » Sun 13 May, 2007 4:02 pm

definitely been wanting to see this, but I suppose I haven't wanted to relive that memory too much (had a friend go down in one of the towers).
Have you guys seen the Fountain by Darren Aronofsky? Really awesome flick, and it comes out on dvd tuesday...

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Post by thewalker » Sun 13 May, 2007 11:41 pm

Have you guys seen the Fountain by Darren Aronofsky? Really awesome flick, and it comes out on dvd tuesday...
aye, it really is brilliant.

and the soundtrack by clint mansell and mogwai and kronos quartet is divine.
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Post by hayhook » Mon 14 May, 2007 6:23 am

I thought the music was great and it was really pretty and they acted the hell out of it, but sadly the end result was still kinda meh...

aronofsky kinda dropped the ball in the writing/tieing it all together dept.

a+ for effort
c for final product...

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Post by chuckcogan » Mon 14 May, 2007 7:00 am

havnt seen it yet.....but its on the list :D
saw "Breaking and Entering (2006)" last night....
was thinking the whole movie...."great music in this one"
turned out it was done by Underworld :D
great movie aswell me thinks
on the romantic drama/thriller tip, very solid performances...recommended
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Post by thewalker » Mon 14 May, 2007 8:27 am

aronofsky kinda dropped the ball in the writing/tieing it all together dept.

a+ for effort
c for final product...
gotta disagree with you on that one hayhook. you could certainly see some compromises in there, but overall it worked. I was really happy to see a film that wasnt hollywood action yet still didnt descend into sub 2001 trippyness.

of course my enjoyment of it was probably helped by the fact that i had reread the Graphic Novel a few days prior and that the healing power and nature of light and loops is my default 'trip" position.....
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Post by blastik » Mon 14 May, 2007 7:26 pm

yeah, I was thoroughly engrossed in this film as I watched it. I read the graphic novel before the film too, but that still didn't skew my experience watching the film. Aronofsky has turned into one of my favorite directors. His potential is pretty exciting when you consider how good his first three efforts have been!

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Post by Steve Sole » Tue 15 May, 2007 8:59 pm

Hayhook.
Just grabbing The Fountain right now.
Will get back with my thoughts, hopefully soon.
In saying that, I've still got Vanishing Point here to watch from the last round.

Soooooooooon

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Post by Suz » Wed 16 May, 2007 4:58 pm

Saw United 93 and its The Families and the Film - very poignant.
In a similar vein, anyone seen Elephant (2003)? Nicely executed (the film I mean!).

BTW Hope to check out Fountain and Breaking & Entering soon – ta!

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Post by blastik » Wed 16 May, 2007 6:39 pm

I've seen Elephant, they filmed it right up the street. I could barely sit through it, it was so boring I almost fell asleep. I dunno, I put Gus Van Sant in the category of 'most overrated director's of all time'. I suppose it's me not getting what he's trying to do, but his 'art' is like nails on a chalkboard.
Have you all seen Pan's Labyrinth? Amazing film!

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Post by Suz » Thu 17 May, 2007 11:26 pm

I know what you mean – it does seem to drag on (I'm normally one to complain about too much action in a film but this was slow even for my liking). But I think it's done deliberately. Plus I like it for the way the scenes link up and also the cinematography. Anyway I'm a bit tired and lazy so thought I'd quote this comment from IMDB which I found interesting:

"he seems to be saying the reasons for the crime are unknowable like human existence itself. For those critics who fault Van Sant for not committing himself to a thesis, the unknowable should have sufficed. That is not to say the director's slow pace, long takes, and interminable tracking shots aren't boring; it's just that the viewer must give in to the director's vision of teenage life as essentially devoid of humor, excitement, and rationale. For us Western rational types, this mirthless world may serve as a possible cause for the slaughter. As one of the murderers tells the other at the beginning of the rampage, `Have fun.'"

I guess it's just not a fun film and it's a bit like Marmite. :)

BTW Pan's Labyrinth sounds interesting...

Interesting is my favourite word today. Hmmm...interesting!

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